If God knew that Adam and Eve would sin, why did He create them? Philip James Bailey. I'm going to be tortured for 30 trillion years for those 30 years? Other views exist, and especially since Voltaire DID believe in God, and wrote about religious tolerance, my view is quite likely not to be what Voltaire intended. A human father is not the judge of the world. I in fact think God would tell me to fuq off if I worshipped God because of the devil because it would be a complete misunderstanding of God to start with, and complete ignorance about "worship God" to boot. (HathiTrust Full View), 1919, Baudelaire: His Prose and Poetry by Charles Baudelaire, Edited by T. R. Smith, Series: The Modern Library of the Worlds Best Books, Story: The Generous Player, Translated by Joseph T. Shipley, Start Page 80, Quote Page 82, Boni and Liveright, New York. The Easter story is a story of hope that - in the Easter story, death is not the final word, that there's something that comes after death. Kevin Spacey? (SOUNDBITE OF MICHAEL NYMAN'S "HOW DO I KNOW YOU KNOW?". With the treasures of the Loretto, amassed for Mary; And how important is the concept of God to societys well-being? You know, with us its beating, the, birch and the lash, thats our national way: with us nailed ears are, unthinkable, were Europeans after all, but the birch, the lashthat is ours, and cannot be taken from us. Nobody frets about it or gets upset by having it. People have gone against his will, and so he is - so he's bringing this disaster of epidemic upon them. Log in or register to write something here or to contact authors. But the kids didn't get the memo. Reply . A writing: The Three Impostors was written by an anonymous author. and thus he spent his whole childhood and his youth, until he grew up and, having gathered strength, went out to steal for himself. They are wiped out. If the devil or Satan did not exist I would still be a Christian good is good and evil is still evil. GROSS: Bart Ehrman is the author of the new book "Heaven And Hell: A History Of The Afterlife.". At the sound of their voice a hundred towns are covered in ruins, It would be his downfall. Jesus himself held to the apocalyptic view that I laid out. I then asked him how his spiritual life is. But eventually, in Christianity, the idea was that since the soul is eternal, it's either rewarded eternally or it's punished eternally. And there are two things that you can say about every one of these people over history who've picked a time. Texas | 167 views, 4 likes, 0 loves, 6 comments, 2 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Shekinah Tabernacle Baptist Church of Dallas, TX: Shekinah. This is the big surprise of the book, and it's the one thing people probably wouldn't expect because, you know, when I was growing up, I just assumed. The old testament has a fairly uniform and rather stark explanation for why there are plagues or epidemics or pandemics. But he was also, like Jesus, an apocalypticist who thought that at the end of the age, there would be a resurrection of the dead. When God creates Adam, he creates him out of earth, and then he breathes life into him. If you actually look at what the Psalms say about Sheol, they always equate it to the grave or to the pit. Will your children be more obedient to your voice? Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? The tears of the innocent that you cause to flow, And, of course, none of them stopped to, think or repent of doing so; on the contrary, they considered themselves, entirely within their rights, for Richard had been presented to them as an, object, and they did not even think it necessary to feed him. I'm Using This Opportunity To Tell You That I Don't Exist. Throughout his life, Voltaires prose covers a broad spectrum of genres. I think the devil doesn't exist, but man has created him, he has created him in his own image and likeness. The larger context of the debate in which he was engaged at the time indicates that he did not intend this statem. It dies of blindness and errors and betrayals. Abuses with abuses, scandal with scandal. When he was on trial, on capital charges - so it was a death sentence awaiting him - he was talking with his companions about what death would be, and his view is that it's one of two things. EHRMAN: I think that - I'll speak from the Christian tradition, which I still cherish even though I am no longer a Christian, there are aspects of Christianity that I resonate with because they're so deeply ingrained in me. / Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? People can't help itthey need something bigger than themselves to believe in, so if God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him. God should not suffer for the stupidity of the priest: "I think that if the devil does not exist, and man has therefore created him, he has created him in his own image and likeness." "As well as God, then." "You're a remarkably good 'implorator of unholy suits,' as Polonius says in Hamlet,"[134] Ivan laughed. Satan (Lucifer) did not want to worship or obey God; he wanted to be God ( Isaiah 14:12-14 ). Would they feel an empty spot in their hearts, or what? Get our Question of the Week delivered right to your inbox! I'm Terry Gross. Of these Caesars tainted by their usurped grandeur; You get that in the story of Moses in the Book of Exodus. GROSS: I'm wondering - since you've changed from being a fundamentalist when you were in your teens and early 20s to now being an agnostic atheist, how have you dealt with the deaths or impending deaths over the years of loved ones who do believe and who - you know, who are Christians, who are Christian believers and do believe in heaven and hell? Voltaire found this a text that denied the existence of a divine being. But then, you did say "believe", and what else would believers do but tremble in fear! God will destroy the forces of evil. What fruit do you expect to reap from your fine arguments? 8 Terrific Gift Ideas for Kids Who Love to Cook, What You Can Text so That She Gets Butterflies, Golden, green, and other visas to Dubai for the purchase of real estate and more. John Fletcher Hurst? You mean I've got to live in this thing forever? Nobody except themselves? (Gallica of Bibliothque Nationale de France at gallica.bnf.fr), 1918 November, The English Review, Edited by Austin Harrison, Volume 27, The Generous Gambler by Charles Baudelaire, Translated from French by Arthur Symons, Start Page 354, Quote Page 355, Published at 19 Garrick Street, London. So, OK, suppose I'm just a regular old sinner, and I die when I'm 40, and so maybe I had about 25, maybe even 30 years of not being the most perfect person on Earth. Why does Isaiah 45:7 say that God created evil? The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. What was his vision of what happens after death? EHRMAN: That is fair to say (laughter). The life is in the breath. If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him. (This question emerged from a discussion of The Usual Suspects. Please check it out: http://www.amazon.com/The-Corsairs-of-Orion-ebook/dp/B007ON17XK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333297399&sr=8-1, Article Source: The untamed ego which lusts for materialism is the real manifestation of what religious people call the devil. (Google Books Full View), 1984 October 31, The Los Angeles Times, Section 5: View, Article: Is Satan Real? It just isn't going to happen. Essentially, if God didn't exist, we'd have to invent him since we still need a deity to worship. Eager to throw themselves amidst the factions, He chose his own path. Sometimes Sheol is talked about by people today as a place that's kind of like the Greek Hades, a place where everybody goes after they die, and they aren't really physical beings down there; they're just kind of like souls, and they exist forever there, and there's nothing to do, and they do - they're all the same. 9:27-28) and the fear of it. . They all adored a master, a judge, a father. There is hope in moments of complete despair. And so that's the alternative. 3 Tamponet was, in fact, a doctor at the Sorbonne. Without a God, moral parameters and ethical guidelines are useless. Nairaland - Copyright 2005 - 2023 Oluwaseun Osewa. The precise citation is given further below. Abroad they apparently no longer do any, beating nowadays; either their morals have been purified or theyve passed, such laws that apparently one man no longer dares to whip another; but. Let me paint a quick picture for those who have this question; it can be extracted from the bible. They will be able to pardon this harsh La Bltrie 4 GROSS: When you were 15 and became a fundamentalist evangelical Christian, what would you have believed about the pandemic? And so when you read the Gnostic Gospels, you find Jesus denouncing the idea that there's a resurrection of the body or that life will be lived eternally in the body; it's strictly a matter of the soul. Eventually, he left the faith altogether. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didnt exist. GROSS: And you say that for the ancient Jews, the fact that the Messiah didn't come, that was a turning point in beliefs about what happens after death, too. Your beliefs about what happens after death or if anything happens might shape how you're dealing with your fears and anxieties. And so in our various Gospels, you have Jesus saying all sorts of things that are contradictory because different people are putting their own ideas onto his lips. If you're just joining us, my guest is religion scholar Bart Ehrman, author of the new book "Heaven And Hell: A History Of The Afterlife." But did it ever occur to them what life would be like without such a mischievous devil? Does BTS Live Together? And he started thinking that, surely, he's going to be in Christ's presence during that time. Spiritually mature people realize that they create their own errors and grievances, that it's their own lower nature tempting them to stumble. This was the old view that the reason God's people suffer is because they've done something wrong and he wants them to repent. Yet, similar remarks were already in circulation. It's going to come very soon. It has to do with the apocalypse, the revelation of God. He's a distinguished professor of religious studies at The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. In Voltaires Dictionnaire des ides recues, a derate is a man with two bosses: the cabinet man and the chameau. They take it very seriously. His rebellion failed - but Satan continues to oppose God and lead people astray. By the way, Turks are particularly fond of sweet things, they say., I think if the devil doesn't exist, but man has created him, he has created him in his own image and likeness., The devil was sick, the devil a monk would be; The devil was well, the devil a monk was he., The Devil . "Cease, impertinent ones, cease, unfortunate ones; EHRMAN: (Laughter) I know, exactly. For having cut short the course of my life. The Brothers Karamazov (1879-1880) . (SOUNDBITE OF PETROS KLAMPANIS' "EASY COME EASY GO"). The soul was immortal and would live forever in Greek thinking. Sometimes Sheol is translated by the word hell, and it absolutely is not what people think of as hell. His mother was a noblewoman from Poitou. Could a Loving God Create Hell To Torment People For Eternity? There can be life after death. Voltaires writings express his intellectual play with words. What would God do without such an adversary to play with, or fight against? EHRMAN: Yeah, no, it's a good question. And of course, belief in heaven and hell has done a lot of good; it's also done a lot of harm. GROSS: So your new book is about the history of heaven and hell. Plato also has ideas about souls living on, either to be rewarded or punished forever. My lodging is filled with lizards and rats; You walk the straight and narrow; you're disciplining yourself on a path of righteousness, staying clear of the iniquitous ways of the world. Paul, in his earliest letters, affirms that view of the imminent resurrection. He wasn't raised in Israel; he was from outside of Israel. Again, Beam declaring Denji to be "Lord Chainsaw" as opposed to "Lord Denji" supports this allegory. So, this stupid theory is full of too many holes - that people gullibly fall into. And so they denied the idea of the resurrection of the body. Emphasis added to excerpts by QI:[1]1836, Quakerism Examined: In a Reply to the Letter of Samuel Tuke by John Wilkinson, Chapter 4: Is the Sacrifice of Christ Held in Proper Estimation by the Society of Friends?, Quote Page 239 and Continue reading. Are you seeing your book in a way that you didn't quite when you were actually writing it? And people started thinking, well, you know, surely I'm going to get rewarded, you know, not in some kingdom that's going to come in a few thousand years, but I'm going to get rewarded by God right away. Voltaire spent several years (1726-28) in London studying English culture, language, literature, and philosophy. And then we'll talk about the history of ideas of heaven and hell. In 1856 Spiritualism, a Satanic Delusion, and a Sign of the Times by Pastor William Ramsey included this passage:[2]1856, Spiritualism, a Satanic Delusion, and a Sign of the Times by William Ramsey (Pastor of the Cedar Street Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia), Chapter 2: The Case Stated, Quote Page 33, Edited by Continue reading. He was raised Jewish. And so they started thinking that it comes at death, and people started assuming then that, in fact, your soul would live on. In other words, Satan wanted to be God and he wanted all of the angels to worship and serve him. Does God create situations? You get it everywhere in the writings of the prophets in Amos and Isaiah, etc. One is not a Christian because the devil exist or not..rather because he/she has come to know in acceptance the Christ within him. "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him.". He will no longer bring along two witnesses 2 So this is a really important shift for understanding both the history of later Judaism and the history of later Christianity and the historical Jesus. Here it is, in its entirety. It is a pleasure to have you back. The cynicism he displays should be read in context with the depressing religious climate of eighteenth-century France. We'll be right back and talk more about the history of heaven and hell. EHRMAN: Right. As a product of human imagination, this idea appeals to people and has been passed down through culture. And so they ended up shifting the thinking away from the idea that there'd be a kingdom here on Earth that was soon to come to thinking that the kingdom, in fact, is up with God above in heaven. About 200 before Jesus was born, there was a shift in thinking in ancient Israel that became - it became a form of ideology, a kind of religious thought that scholars today call apocalypticism. And what is interesting is Gnostics then claimed that Jesus also denied it. The body is a cosmic disaster. It is the cygnes that can casser a mans cuisse. Op you are already immediately mistaken for you know not that devil is simply, the evil, D' evil! And that was the view that Jesus then picked up. GROSS: FRESH AIR's executive producer is Danny Miller. But if Jesus has addressed the matter of judgement on the cross, and he has, then the believer's fear is relieved ( Col. 2:13-15 ). But now the talk is more about climate change, as it should be. In virtually every case, we're told that it's because God is punishing people. 1 This book of the Three Imposters is a very dangerous work, full of coarse atheism, without wit and devoid of philosophy. EHRMAN: Yes. EHRMAN: I do in some ways. There are people today who are saying that the reason of the pandemic is because, you know, one sin or another. According to them, we live in a world where the devil apparently rules our lives, decides our fate, and steers us into the wrong direction. Yes, you can do or get away with anything you want! EHRMAN: That's a really good question. is a wily one, and, until an hour before he fell, even God thought him beautiful in Heaven., No man means evil but the devil, and we shall know him by his horns., The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose., People talk sometimes of bestial cruelty, but that's a great injustice and insult to the beasts; a beast can never be so cruel as a man, so artistically cruel., In fact, I believe that the best definition of man is the ungrateful biped., https://kwize.com/Fyodor-Dostoyevsky-quotes, Click on the text to copy it to clipboard, http://www.gutenberg.org/files/28054/28054-h/28054-h.html. When we originally scheduled the interview we're about to hear, we didn't realize how weirdly timely it would be. Remarkable Last Words (or Near-Last Words) Picture Quotes. He was a Greek-speaking Jew. What can you do after Valentines Day to make your sweetheart happy? Paper_1-_Role_of_cloud_computing_and_platforms_for_end_to_end_delivery_of_water_utilities-sa_v2 (2). And secondly, every one of them has been incontrovertibly wrong (laughter). To display the idea of good and evil side by side Larson uses extreme syntax. I hope you'll join us. Interesting precursors occurred even earlier; for example, the 1836 book Quakerism Examined by John Wilkinson contained the following. If I'm brought into the presence of Christ at the resurrection, and, you know, there's a gap between the time I die and - what happens to me during that gap? But is this a myth, an allegory, or a reality? It'll be exponential. What it says is that Samuel came up, but it doesn't say where he was, and it doesn't say if he was living at the time. And so Jesus taught that the kingdom of God, this new physical place, was coming soon, and those who did not get into the kingdom were going to be annihilated. Everybody loves a deep, dreamless sleep. But in terms of what I believe, I'm an atheist. He converted several years after Jesus' death. I'm sorry, but since vanity is one of the Seven Deadly Sins, the vainest being in the world would be the devil, I would think. This is FRESH AIR. What If, The Devil Don't Exist, Will You Still Be A Christian? And so people often point to that as an instance that's - well, so people are alive after they're dead. And stop biting one another for absurd chimeras." They believe this ominous caricature is a myth created by dogmatists who have misunderstood ancient allegorical religious literature or sacred scriptures or orally passed down stories. But it's not what you believe. And it's the view of Revelation. "I think the devil doesn't exist, but man has created him, he has created him in his own image and likeness." - Fyodor Dostoevsky . Have hurled cries that are scorned by the wise man; There will be evidences of God's patience with us . Thomas Jefferson, in an essay titled If God Did Not Exist, it would be necessary to invent Him (1803), claimed that God is the only thing that is required to make a civilized society work. Jefferson did not intend his statement to be ironic. Jesus believed that people would be destroyed when - at the end of time, they'd be annihilated. Images have been cropped and resized. Isn't this a kind of exciting yet twisted paradise in its own right? And those 30 trillion years is just the beginning? Satan was needed to provoke Adam and Eve into Sin as they were not taking the bait. Scholar Weighs the Baloney and the Brimstone (Continuation title: SATAN: Expert Sifts Fiendish Fact, Fiery Fiction), Continue reading, I like to quote from Baudelaire, he retaliated. People do not live forever. No. If someone wants to assume an official position, I know these awful monuments better than you; If you're just joining us, my guest is religion scholar Bart Ehrman, who is the author of the new book "Heaven And Hell: A History Of The Afterlife." You turn my words against me. Makima in Chainsaw Man: All You Need to Know Spoiler Warning: This guide has the biggest spoilers for the plot of Chainsaw Man's Public Safety Arc (up to Chapter 97). He does not uphold goodness and punish evil in the world. EHRMAN: Well, thank you for having me. You know, a lot of people read Revelation as indicating that people who are opposed to God - sinners will be cast into the lake of fire forever, and they will be - yeah, they'll be floating in fire for eternity. And in Europe, finally, happy toleration Of these wretches in sandals, the excrement of humanity, But Jesus isn't talking about heaven because he doesn't believe - he's a Jew - he doesn't believe in the separation of soul and body. When philosophy, enlightening humanity, It does psychological damage. Your wife more honest? So let's do that, and then we'll talk some more. See Page 1. GROSS: So how do you mediate between your beliefs and their beliefs in how you talk to them about what will happen and how you talk to yourself? Alas! What were the explanations in the Hebrew Bible for plagues? And she holds a kind of seance. GROSS: Are there specific passages in the Hebrew Bible that support the notion of an afterlife? He examines the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament, as well as writings from the Greek and Roman era. Let the wise man announce him and kings fear him. As a writer, Voltaire wrote numerous memorable aphorisms. Copyright 2006 -2012 by R. R. Stark -- All Rights Reserved. If God Did Not Exist | It Would Be Necessary to Invent Him, If God Did Not Exist, It Would Be Necessary to Invent Him, The importance of the concept of God for societys well being, Ahora, the last release of the Romo-Agri-Messiez, ranked in the top, Is it possible to buy an L-shaped sofa cover today, THE IMMACULATE CROWS AND THEN THERE WERE TWO, My Spouse (Husband/ Wife) Died and I Want to Be with Her. And if you're thinking, but what about this passage in the Old Testament or what about that passage in the New Testament, let me just say we only had time to touch on a few of the points in Bart Ehrman's book, so if you want to know more about what he has to say about the history of the afterlife, I refer you to his book. Platinum Author It's a word that gets mistranslated into English. Those that think "the devil made me do it" are looking for a scapegoat, a way to get off the hook for their own screw-ups. (Google Books Full View), 1856, Spiritualism, a Satanic Delusion, and a Sign of the Times by William Ramsey (Pastor of the Cedar Street Presbyterian Church, Philadelphia), Chapter 2: The Case Stated, Quote Page 33, Edited by H. L. Hastings, Published by H. L. Hastings, Peace Dale, Rhode Island. But then toward the end of the Hebrew Bible era, some Jewish thinkers came to believe that the future resurrection would apply not just to the nation but to individuals. EHRMAN: Yeah. GROSS: Thank you. Bart Ehrman, welcome back to FRESH AIR. It dies because we don't know how to replenish its source. The, Turks, of course, are in it, but theyre foreigners. The latter is an eminent critic. They'll be in bodies. This sublime system is necessary to man. But in Greek circles, going way back to Plato and before him, that was absolutely the belief. I mean, I just - no (laughter). He thinks that there's going to be a resurrection of the dead at the end of time. To testify to his beliefs; rather they will swear to his good conduct. The book that I'm writing that I'm now calling "Expecting Armageddon" is all about that. - Listen to 71. Doesn't religion require the contrast of a benevolent deity and an insidious devil? But when you stumble, you get right back up and try again. And the purged and purified tamed ego is attuning itself with God. I will make myself like the Most High'" (Isaiah 14:13-14). 968 likes Roberta Shorrock directs the show. But is it beneficial? I have also celebrated God when the devil was vanquished. "But you can't stop people from worshiping God," Jerry replied. The prophet Isaiah recalls this event: "You said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven. Op, have you got a thread where you defined what devil is? earning money as a day laborer in Geneva, spent his earnings on drink. Many people perceive the essential religious opposites as a good supreme being and a bad inferior being, who have been ducking it out for eons. EHRMAN: Paul is very important for understanding the history of heaven and hell, as he's important for understanding most things about early Christian thinking. And right, it kind of seems like that when you read it - when you just kind of simply read it. But they - these apocalyptic thinkers came to think that God was soon going to destroy these forces of evil and get rid of them altogether, and the world would again return to a utopia. Revelation 12:4 is understood to be a figurative description of one third of the angels choosing to follow Satan in his rebellion, becoming the fallen angelsdemons. 2 R y communalit GoF 4 In which y communalit average communality of all, RACE RELATIONS AS DISCUSSED IN FENCES.docx, A a zinc strip and 10 M HClaq B a zinc strip and 30 M HClaq C zinc powder and 10, Remember the Abercrombie Lookism video we watched 15 Oliver an African American. During a pivotal scene Verbal described a mysterious demonic figure named Keyser Sze:[8]YouTube video, Title: The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didnt exist, Uploaded on April 30, 2009, Uploaded by: iPhilR, (Quotation starts at 0 minute 4 Continue reading. Truth is we all have free choice; we can freely choose to do good or to do bad. GROSS: So a lot of the imagery of hell comes from the Book of Revelation. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. (Google Books Full View), Baudelaire, that old flower of evil, was right: The Devils cleverest wile is to make men believe that he does not exist., In 1984 a reporter with The Los Angeles Times spoke to Jeffrey Russell, a professor of medieval history at UC Santa Barbara, who referenced the saying:[7]1984 October 31, The Los Angeles Times, Section 5: View, Article: Is Satan Real? To commemorate the occasion, Aaron White of Feel. ocps non . 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