The BMW N20 is a 1.6 and 2.0 L (98 and 122 cu in) turbocharged four-cylinder DOHC petrol engine with variable valve lift and variable valve timing which replaced the N53 (or BMW N52 in some markets) and was produced from 2011 to 2017 by BMW. Im going to trade. Im wondering if I can just replace those bolts with new steel ones , my car is out of warranty and it has not develop any issues yet , but as precautionary measure I was wondering if this is possible? I would just pay attention to any abnormal whine noise,,,,there is no maintenance on the timing chain. Now also Im sitting 3 months over then 7/70 mark! 131401 Intermittent VANOS (variable cam shaft timing) exhaust cold start not controllable I can of course record my engine startup if thatll let you know the case). Hello, Hello BMW technician, I know there is a lawsuit going on with N20 timing chain in NJ District Court When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Cloning means making full copy of ISN files from original DME and copy it over to use DME, So what happens if the ISN files are corrupted and you just copied it over to the other DMEare the pins damaged on the original DME ,,,or are the connection on the harness damage,,,,we just had a car last mouth where the harness was damaged for the fuel injector signals causing fuel to dump,,,the harness was damaged on the connector for the DME,,,you might have to perform OHM test on the harness to make sure the harness and connections are good. as suggested by dealer over phone or something else? Im in california and Im planning to buy a used 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25). 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable charger. 108f01 And is the tension just spring our does it rely on oil pressure as well? F31 Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164466 Mfg#: 11377603979KT5 Qty: Availability: In Stock $243.84 Add to Cart Free Shipping on orders $59 and up Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164462 Mfg#: Im sorry,,,and I hate how BMW has handled the whole problem with the N20-N26 engine and timing chain issue,,,I understand your frustration with BMW and how they didnt take care of this known problem. Everything else works perfectly at 176,000km. Yes you need to buy the camshaft locking tools,,,,the timing will slip,,,,you need a t-stat also,,,,the charge pressure fault may be due to the vanos unit,,,,the trailer issue is a random fault,,,,hope this helps. Here is the list of cars that have the 7/70 timing chain extension. This way I dont have to set up any timing if I do it one at the time. Also how does a dealerships diagnose if a vehicle is eligible for extended timing chain warranty? Cheers. procedure outlined below. https://youtu.be/Frj0a82XfDo, He did not notice any whining- but do you hear whining in this second video? The N20 is a 2.0L inline-4 single turbo engine that replaced the naturally aspirated 3.0L N52/N53. has reduced power output. Suddenly the half yellow engine light came on and was telling me that reduced engine power bla bla. How do you check the oil pressure? https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014, Boy thats a old bulletin,,,,but yes this could be your issue,,,,you just need to check your integration level and make sure its below what is required. Just to be clear, there are two different parts of the VANOS solenoids on the N20. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: F010-13-07-506 for the F10 My rule if its not broken dont fix it,,,,dont take the solenoids apart ok,,,,the turbo boost fault was related to the vanos faults. And yes the crank wouldnt rotate after being inserted. Since the picture was taken by me not by the dealer. Hi Andreas, This question has appeared in your blog before. The car has 103,000 miles. Thanks! The improved DME software was introduced Technical Service 131401 possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve and clean it? 61 00 006 WT Performing vehicle diagnosis test BMW INTAKE VANOS ACTUATOR SOLENOID LOCATION REPLACEMENT EXPLAINED F30 F31 F32 F33 F34 428i 328i 320i 420i 418i 318i 316iIf you are trying to find where the i. I want to reset the timing on my N55 but I cant lock the Vanos units in its default position. The engine start ok. no misfiring. Its hard to say what the problem is with out hearing and driving the car,,,,I dont think the noise is timing chain because that makes a whining noise,,,the only leak could be a exhaust leak but you said the steering also shakes,,,have you had the tires and rims checked make sure rims are not bent,,,also check the rear transmission mount make sure they are not cracked or broken,,,also check the drive belt tensioner could be a problem. Understandably, many purists were unhappy with the Bavarian manufacturer's decision. To set the timing properly you have to be sure the Vanos units are locked its end position, so its moving 1:1 with the camshaft. Do you know if the new Vanos assemblies comes with the upgraded bolts or do I still need to change out the 4 Vanos Gear bolts on a new assembly? So I have an US 2013 BMW sdrive28i with 109k miles build date 02/2013. Thanks. Most auto repairs shops charge between $75 and $150 per hour. Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.50.4 or higher. If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? Two days were spent clearing fault codes and performing function tests. Whether the engine is cold or warm, the VANOS faults appear within 15 seconds of startup. Cleared the code, and restarted the engine, within . BMW wont tell us why some models have problems and some dont,,,,it could be because of horsepower,,,,,you could replace tensioner if you want,,,,,it wouldnt hurt anything, Thanks for the reply i think its 220i and 320i uses the exact engine N20 my F22 2014 car now has 105000kms since its not in the list , in general what do u advice me to do shall i just keep my ears alerted to sounds or u advise me to take to service center and maintain the chain so i can save the engine ? Reset codes and adaptations without increment wheel. SUBJECT programming and it fails to program correctly or requires initialization, this additional work must Thanks! No car manufacturer is going to tell you the problems with their car,,,they are just worried about the sale of that car,,,,not what is wrong with that car. Hopefully it will prove to be a non issue. now I have a question for you and hoping to get a direction. I hate to take it to the junk yard. You should ask the dealer about it. Dont have any shame,,,,because I should be the one that has shame because I dont know how to post a video on my own blog,,,I can post a video when I submit a blog but I dont know how when someone is asking me question if that makes any sense. The engine sounds exactly the same as the first time it started after the timing chain installation. It is possible without the timing tools, but if you risk needing to re-time the engine if something moves. No one knows what this CDA904 code means. 131501 vanos inlet cold start not controllable and 120408 boost pressure control cut off pressure rise blocked 2011 x3. Thank you for your time and expertise. It should show something like incorrect angle/position. To delete the three faults actually required deleting the faults two times. Ill check my gas cap but I need to clear this code. It was somewhat cold today around 20 degrees. Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.51.0 or higher. If you are interested here is the rest of the story. Hello again, hope you having great day!! three fault codes are The original window sticker says my car was 65% made in Germany and 5% in Canada or something. Is the fact that my vehicle is not on your list reassuring? I dont want to sell the car because nobody is going to give me what I bought it for. Having the same. (not including CAS) I am not sure if it was the wrong filter. There can typically be a ton of different. BMW replaced the motor and shipped it to us in AZ from Virginia. Im thinking the dealership is just not interested in fixing it. I just purchased a 2016 228i xDrive Cabriolet (manufactured in Germany) with 46k kilometers for my wife. We purchased it from a BMW dealership, they didnt mention any potential issues with the timing chain components. How do I approach the dealer saying I hear a noise and whatnot for them to fix it while it is still under warranty? Thanks for any input. I know I might be looking at replacing Vanos Actuator, central valve or the whole vanos unit. It had deteriorated and failed. N20/N26 is an attemptof BMWAG to reclaim 4-cylinder glory from the past, e.g. and cam shaft are not in alignment any more. The documentation claimed that it would take one minute for the VANOS cold start faults to appear. Tried test with ista for vanos solenoid test removed solenoid stiff does not move when activated. Content on bimmerfest.com is generated by its users. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ASE and BMW Master Certified Technician 09-28-2017, 07:33 PM #6 Ramos8553 Member Join Date Sep 2017 131401 vanos exhaust cold start not controllable Up to that point the engine was smooth as silk!! Do u recommend changing the tensioner as preventive maintenance? diagnosis system checking faults) code:131501 VANOS, intake, cold start: not controllable. Glossary of Emission Coverage attachment for more information. I called BMW and they said no recalls on the car and told me to take it to a BWM Official garage. its really a shame that BMW does not step up. Nope,,,,its up to the dealership to make the call for BMW if they will fix the timing chain issue on your car under the TSB. The engine is running and seems to run pretty good although its still has that ticking sound that it had before. Please note the displayed battery voltage reading in the repair order comments section. Should I proactively replace the timing chain tensioner, part number 11318685091 (replaces part number 11317567680)? I would love to listen to your video,,,please send it. It idles fine and sounds much better than before. The only odd result is that the desired angles of 0 and 0.6 had actual angles that were off by ~8 degrees. The cam is at -18 degrees and not changing. Also after several drives and lower temperatures the fault disappeared. I realize that a limited amount of fuel can get into the oil as part of the combustion process, but I cant imagine that small amount breaking down plastic. Picture of my timing chain guide rail cracking: https://imgur.com/4P3ATsK. I thinks it just some random fault that comes up. Reply Quote. This will likely be the first and last BMW I will ever own. I had 2014 328i and having no issue yet so far,but im concern about the timing chain since my car is on the list of having problems with the timing chain,i checked the vin number to see if there is a recall for that and did not see anything,what should i do to double check ?should i go to dealership and just tell them about this bulleti? Warranty. I own a 2015 X1 with a manufacture date of April 2014. I have 2013 BMW X1 xdrive28i with 79,000 km on it. Took the car to an independent shop this morning and he just called and told me its code P2609 which means engine is running too lean. The BMW N20 is a 4-cylinder, turbocharged engine produced from 2011-2017, and was BMW's replacement for the naturally aspirated 3.0L 6-cylinder N52/N53 engines. Required fields are marked *. Hi, I own a 2012 BMW X1 that recently developed a timing chain problem. PROCEDURE I have done my timing chain after finish car starts up runs but would not idle until cel come on. Even if the engine is warm it still gives these same fault codes. They also got me up to speed on the known timing chain issues, extended 7yr/70,000 mile extended warranty and class action lawsuit stuff. Thank you in advance. Are there many vehicles that run on ethanol in the United States? The year of 2012 was a year of impending upgrades in . Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: Is this related to the new engine I got? 2013 X3 N20 28i. SB-10053485-8362 130304 The timing was checked several times after installing the new chain. Your really helpful : So how do I know when its time for a update. You think BMWNA would cover timing chain here if brought in for inspection? Only in eco or comfort mode when I drive carefully or just keeping a normal speed at low rpm. Everything works, radio, windows, Locks. This could be a fuel issue,,,but BMW is not saying anything about the problem. check out the. Changed the solenoid valves. and Wont restart. also by any chance would you know the torque specs for this bolts? dtc are 131401 and 131501 . Im more concerned with the multiple vanos codes which happened after the fact. i took it to a euro car guy that i know he flashed the transmission and that solved the problem, did you get it sorted I, having the same faults. Disregard my question. Now im getting vanos inlet, outlet codes, along with vanos camshaft jammed for both intake and exhaust. Cheers, Also, I had the whole transmission replaced at 42K miles when I bought it. Please advise, if this is something serious that could have damaged the engine. The first start up gave many more codes but I have cleared the fault codes several times and these two appear along with the consequence fault code of 120408 Charge pressure control off. The process of deleting the faults and restarting the car was performed many times. What would happen if I resent the adaptations with increment wheel/. One or more of the following faults is stored in the New chain and guides and so far no problems. 131808 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached U tell me, BMW my have a governor,,,but you still can over rev the engine,,,,it is a strange design that doesnt work,,,but I think BMW did this way so they can blame the customer for over reving the engine and not paying for a blown engine. No I dont think it is covered,,,and what lifetime of the vehicle are you talking about. Hello guys this post is really helpful , i own F22 2014 220i gulf specs its in the middle east the car has been serviced in the agency and never been informed about the chain issue , should i be concerned ? My 2013 X3 28i timing chain was replaced by BMW (no cost to me) in January 2019 at 107,000 km. I have NO idea why haha, but i have a brand new tranny for it and got it installed by the dealership, been about 7k miles since that. 01-18-2020, 01:07 PM #2 mandd Autobahn East Join Date I learned that if you touch the neg and positive battery cable together while the battery is disconnected it clears the light. The engine was low water damaged. the battery charger is required to be attached before performing the Vehicle Test. The intake cam had the following desired/actual degrees: 0/-8, -20/-20, -10.4/-10, -20/-20 and -10.4/-10. . Looked at my timing chain and there seems to be some play in the chain. 2D54 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Non-adjustable The I-level is newer than the I-level specified in SI B12 15 13. Recently purchased 2104 BMW X1 28i x drive. Defect Code: 11 36 01 96 00 Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get covered on this timing chain problem? 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