You're going to have to do some testing and fiddling to find out what works best. We spent around $300 in lumber and concrete, and several hundred dollars more on metal shafts, plates, etc. Circuits | Floating Arm Trebuchet : 7 Steps (with Pictures) - Instructables for the sling While a regular trebuchet and floating arm trebuchet both drop a counterweight from only slightly above their pivot points, a FAKA trebuchet drops a counterweight from nearly 2 arm lengths above the ground, giving it more potential energy, thus allowing projectiles to be fired a greater distance. As long as it's a strong, flexible cloth pouch that is big enough to wrap around your projectile, It's fine. Otherwise, the counterweights would just stop like the safety makes it do (Second clip in the video in the first step) Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz) New 08 Jul 2012 #21. Sorry I haven't responded until now. As a starting point, cut these two 9 years ago (0.889 m) long 2 X 6 I forget what you are supposed to do next (0.635 cm) diameter, 6 in. [5] Friction of the wheel on the arm axle against the glide track should be managed in a similar way. You also want to keep the track in a straight line, otherwise the wheels will fall off the edge. the short arm is the 1 (In the ratio) and the long arm is the 3.5 (in the ratio) -3.5 times longer than the short arm. Remember the bumping problem. Posts : 9,606. thick wood, 2 ft., 5 in. Unless one eye bolt cannot support the weight, relax. Webconfigurations for the trebuchet: 1. The first sketchup picture (Sorry only have real pictures of the finished thing) shows what it should look like when your done. (6.35 cm.) so: coping saw and orbital sander (The one I used here) DRILL PILOT HOLES FOR EVERYTHING!!!!!! I would like to work on the floating arm trebuchet because the design of it is more interesting and D [9] These machines and their designers are frequently to be found competing in various recreational events, for example, pumpkin chucking contests.[10][11][12]. Axel for the masses is coathanger wire but ensure the axel never absobs the full impact of the falling masses as it will bend. Otherwise, the arm would derail a lot more. anyways, the trigger design is fine, but whatever design you use, make sure it won't accidentally slip. This is a more efficient way to transfer potential Fun Crafts For Kids Craft Stick Crafts Wood Crafts Simulated distance: 316.6 feet. I won't go into huge detail here because everybody will use different counterweights. So for a 3.5:1 ratio and 7 ft beam, my short arm would be 1.55 feet and my long arm would be 5.6 feet, more or less. WebThe 5DOF Floating Arm Trebuchet This is the floating arm trebuchet with a sling. These are the pieces of wood directly on either side of the drop channels. (1.27 cm) wood screws, phillips head drive, # 8 This step is fairly simple. Place the weights in the box and screw on the top. Once smooth motion is achieved, begin adding weight, but do not fire anything until a max weight test is done. Simple Table Top Catapult. The person on the ground should pull back and down on the arm like a lever, using the guide wheel as a fulcrum. 7. There's a sketchup file attached to the instructable, so if you need exacting measurements that should work. slide the bolt the rest of the way through the other hole. (Look at the picture) 3/8 X 4 eye bolt (Including bolts) You may want to keep the weights out while you are doing this. The arm can be longer than your sheet of wood, but make sure the gaps between the pieces are in different spots for each layer. 17. Luckily, the exact size of these supports doesn't matter too much. OK onto step 1 The most common of several trigger mechanisms is two eye bolts and a peg through both bolts. Tie it so that it hangs about 12 inches (2.55.1 cm) from the top of the arm. Then drive 3 through the base and into the bottom of the drop channel. .and several of the bolts for the 5/8" threaded rod. Feel free to use them for educational or personal use. denim fabric For the drop channel, I would recommend using two separate boards for each side. Ensure that the shafts you choose have a diameter that mates well with your inside wheel diameter, as well as your inserts. 2 1/2 X 10 eye bolts The arm slowed down a lot, and the ball spit out the back. Take a break. I like the adjustable arm ratio. The cutouts go around the main track supports. It will be harder to split or break the wood. Cut these two twisting braces at around 1 ft 2 inches because the length of these will affect the width between the tops of the two drop channels. 9 years ago Harmonic balancers work well for wheels, and can be pulled from a V8 engine at a junkyard. *Basically you just want enough layers of tape around the rope holes so nothing rips, and so that the rope doesn't pull out of the holes. Today they are used mostly for recreation and education. Male sure you always do these cuts on the same side. Awesome trebuchet! I lined up the holes with the dowels and hammered home. Cut a piece of steel pipe for an insert and place it at the center of each form, then pour the concrete. Your arm should look nice and smooth like the pics. These are the 2 2 ft. long 2 X 4s. The arm is on a moving axle and the torqueD|volume=26|doi=10.1088/0143-0807/26/4/002|issue=4}} The forward motion of the axle as the arm rotates adds speed to the projectile end of the arm. The straight track drop is an idea used in a FAT (Floating Arm Trebuchet), or in our Baby ASOK (Arm Slides Over Cam). Lastly, Again, not critical. (0.635 cm) bolts, matching thread Need some advice please. Keep pulling back on the arm until the counterweight bolt is about 3 inches over the topside of the tracks. It is scaled using the data of skullmech;s trebuchet, but taller as we had no hieght restriction. 2 segments of 6 ft. (1.8288 m) long 2 X 4 This is essential for an efficient machine. 3.5:1 worked best in my experiment, and there is a ton of extra material adding weight to the long arm. Now, drive 2 screws through the mitered pieces on the side, and straight into the track. 3. 2 segments of 6 ft. (1.8288 m) long 1 X 6 (Note: rope angle of 45 is different than arm angle of 90-105) Nylon rope held fine, but it stretched every time we fired, making fine-tuning tough. (Flanges would work here as an alternative) We added a tapered cut to the arm, going from 4x8 to 4x4 at the tip. It launches 5 pound pumpkins around 320 feet with 250 pounds of counter weight. look out for flying cats I have no idea if this is the most ideal design for this type of trebuchet. From this line and out to the edge, cut 3/8" deep (Half the depth of a 1 x 6) with your circular saw every 16th of an inch or so, all the way across the flat side. You should have a " Y " shape rope with a trigger pin on each end. The guide blocks can be any shape you want, but look at the picture notes below for shaping. I had no idea what the problem was at first. Ok, now to attach the drop channels. drill (The one I used here came in a kit here) with a varied drill bit set, for pilot holes, etc. *look at the last step: improvements. This allows us to swap out pins, or adjust forward and backward. Use a wrench or hopefully a driver of some sort to drive the CW bolt all the way throughone drop channel, through the arm and out the other drop channel. So I'm still not sure if i should add it. drive 3 screws through the base and into the bottom of the diagonal, and 3 more through the diagonal and into the mitered side support pieces. Awesome! Grab the trigger pins. And, I'm not looking to chuck this 200yds. Plywood also included in the arm 4. These should be fairly simple-they're just diagonal pieces. This, in turn, changes the width of the drop channels to narrow (BAD) or widen (usually better). 8. This is it. The part of the war machine that means business. The Arm. Luckily, It's also pretty simple to  make. You need: 6 segments of 2 (0.635 cm) washers, matching carriage bolts Virtual Trebuchet is a free web based trebuchet simulator. Ok, find a flat surface and 3 scrap pieces of 2 X 4. 4. 4 rectangles of 3/4 inch (1.905 cm) thick wood 9 X 4 in. The two bits at the open top of the cut channel..keeps the drop channel from "opening" As it turned out, our design was over built and held up well. Mark the line directly across the flat face of the track, perpendicular to the long edge. *must be able to fit inside counterweight boxesSling 2 segments of 5 ft., 10 in (1.7272 m) long 2 X 4 The classic beam ratio for a FAT is 2:1. Arm-sling constraint, arm roller on fixed track, projectile above ramp. Weld the inserts carefully to the plates, ensuring the axis of each insert is as close to normal (90) from the plate as possible. Wheels are from the rotating platform from a microwave but any small stong wheel will do. 9. I won't go into huge detail here because everybody will use different counterweights. Basically make a box that can contain your counterweights, Again, make sure a 5/8" bolt can easily fall through. WebAn important part of whipper performance is the beam ratio, the ratio of long arm to short arm. I have real pictures, but no sketchup ones. They have cutouts on them so that they can be screwed directly onto the base with their 2 ft. long edge flush with the outside 2 ft. edge of the short 1 X 6. They should come out easily if they were cut narrowly enough. Make the arm from the 1/2" x 3" x 36" pine board. Ok, now repeat the entire process mentioned above for the "short" side. However, a floating arm trebuchet is more efficient when built to a size of between one meter and five meters,[5] making it suitable for hobbyists and model builders. The principle behind this device is that the counter weight moves only vertically as the arm's axis moves along a horizontal rail on wheels. A note about the guide blocks: Ok, now you need to flip over the long (6-ft.) pieces and slide the two foot pieces underneath. diameter threaded rod, coarse thread Did you make this project? This was done with the safety bars in place, as well as the chain clicked into the trigger. These are the four sections of 1 ft, 5 in 2 X 6. This will be the top. We are to have a constructed trebuchet and have it prepared to launch on Tuesday, April 23. Simply miter off each edge at a 45 degree angle, so that the piece is the shape of a trapezoid. Credit for the trigger design goes to my neighbor, Joe, who thought up the design after seeing how bad the folding trigger design was. This ring will be what loops around the pin. I haven't noticed any cracking with a 1 pound weight being fired at full speed, but a 6 lb weight will exert much more force on the arm because of its higher inertia.. Lay the last three pieces of the 2.5 foot sections on top of the arm. If you need more help with the guide blocks let me know. There are two main safety mechanisms: The safety blocks, which prevent the arm from falling, and the second is common sense. I like things that go boom and sushi, preferably at the same time. It will prevent frame strikes, jams and other problems later on. WebLaser Cut Desktop Trebuchet. I made my own (although on a slightly smaller scale. Hopefully they're willing to help. i just copied that The trigger pins keep the weight from falling. Ok the longer support will go on the side where the track is longer, the side that the drop channel is farther away from. use your head before you lose your head. 14. How would this work at half the size? Make sure the axle bolt is short enough to clear the frame easily. Make sure your projectile is in the sling (Yes we do forget that a lot) the ring is on the pin, the CW bolt won't get stuck on the eye bolts coming out of the drop channels and that the safety blocks are still in, along with the weights (Obviously) The radios of rail height/overall drop, arm length, counterweight/projectile weight, wheel size, etc were all guessed based off existing trebuchets from internet sources. If not look at step 10. 8 matching cut washers Next we have the drop channel supports. 2 segments of 6 ft., 2 in. Their defining feature is free movement of an axle on the throwing arm,[2] and a linear drop channel for the counterweight. It includes what I used at the time. Simulator. Slip the ring over the pin, and stretch the sling lines to get rid of as much slack as possible. May need to be shortened, look at improvements therobotichand, would you mind posting any materials or tutorials you used? He can back away. I'm using this kind of trebuchet for an assignment, and the ratio of our weight to out projectile is about 1:200. would this kind of trebuchet be better in this case than a traditional trebuchet? Remember that these adjust the front half of the tracks, the next bit adjusts the back. 50 pounds that was used here. Although the trebuchet will work so small, it might be better to increase the arm ration. Now I'll tell you how to lock load and FIRE! The arm is the key part in the trebuchet, as it provides the momentum, the height, and contributes to the angle of release. 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