(I wont get into the aggravating colleague who copies the boss on EVERY (sorry for the shouty capitals) email exchange between us, which is another reason why my emails resemble business letters I look more professional than she. There was no history of bleeding; stool sample was negative for occult blood. I usually can get improvement by coaching them on this. sleeps is possibly an Aussie thing? We also have to remind ourselves that people from some cultures require *more* personal space than Americans do! Its formal, but thats not the same as passive-aggressive. I work with people in India a lot and they do say Please do the needful which is quirky English but not offensive or particularly grating to me. Well, to be fair, I was trying to derail his political career. Passive-aggressive or something. I tend to err on the side of not reading snideness into emails unless its either really egregious or I have reason to believe that the person is actually trying to be snide. I like it because they might actually need something before they complete and return the thing I need; if not, its a memory jog that doesnt automatically assume theyre not on the ball. I sign my emails with Regards all the time. I think that phrases that only occur in print, like this one, lend themselves really well to misreading and speculation because weve never heard another person utter them out loud and for that reason can only speculate on the tone. In mine, please advise is typically used when someones pretty irritated with you. Please let me know if you agree likewise. Also, just the sheer volume of email I got made it necessary to adopt some kind of triage system, and people who plainly asked for what they wanted from me always got priority. Its difficult to find delicate ways to follow-up with someone when youre unsure if somethings fallen off their radar or not. This person I know says it all the time (All. OP needs to chill. Now I use it myself naturally. I mean sure, I could email her and ask what number she can be reached at- but if shes not at her desk chances are she cant take the call right then anyway. Although Please advise can seem a bit blunt on its own, like most things it does depend on context and culture. I dont mind quickly emailing my boss and saying something like, Laura, did we receive the orders today? But overall, it feels too awkward and informal to not add something after the question, and I think some people who use Please advice are doing so for similar reasons. But I genuinely DO hate pestering people. This is what I generally do. Exactly. Did we actually want to purchase this item? me: yes Thanks in advance! is less annoying to me than please and thank you. Instead, we head to a conference room for almost all phone calls. Thats what I envisioned, too, because its what I see. To me "Let me know what suits you best" sounds better. Otherwise, youd phrase it as a question or request, like, Id appreciate your input on this. In other contexts, obviously, the words are used more literally. w.onload = loader; Thanks, Oh, the fun we would have with their frequently used terms. Please let me know when it completed or Please let me know when it complete? Yes the way it grates on me is when I get a message that says please advise, I take time to actually give a suggestion or remedy, and then either hear nothing or find out that they did whatever they wanted anyway without actually listening to my advice. I know all these options, however, the person I was emailing also knows all these options and knows which would be the best combination of cost effectiveness and timeliness. I do this too most of the time! I admit that I use it a little more often when Im frustrated about something, but there are times when it really is the best possible phrase to use in my opinion. i kind of agree with the letter writer. One day I went in to talk to her about a security issue. So I just associate it with management instructions. you are reacting to i require when its being used as i need. 2. I learned of the phrase after listening to some fiction audiobooks set in India. That way, I hope, people know why theyre on the email and if they need to respond back. I also use it like this. Im more likely to say, Please let me know your thoughts.. ", I love how the editors make my work so much better. But it does feel like theres a need to end the email with what youre looking for. I alwaya say friendly reminder. If necessary it becomes friendly but urgent! To me, its off puttingly brusque to say, reminder, I need this by friday, or your veeblefitz report is late, I need it asap. But then, Im from the Say-outh, where we use lots of words to hide displeasure. I have marked this listing as Complete. Please Advise doesnt sound snarky or passive-agressive to me at all. Or, I schedule a 15 minute call with a conference line and ask them to phone in. It comes across as condescending to me. I had to Google it the first time someone said it to me, because I wasnt sure if it was supposed to be vaguely insulting or extremely polite. :). Why do we write it in emails? In my mind, an employee who just comes to me and says please advise is taking the easy way out and making my job harder at the same time. Its really good to conserve on Es, so that future generations may have some. We talked about x but you did y, and Im really confused about how that happened. With furrowed brow and head tilt. w.onload = loader; Same thing happened at my work placethousands of employees all responding with reply all. You do not become a priority to him by making him your priority. The latter has a different meaning. Give yourself time to think When you receive an offer, it's common to ask for at least one day and up to a week to consider the terms. Thank you. or Hi, just following up if X and Y has been done yet? Please Keep Me Up To Date I should also add that I appreciate reminders since Im disorganized and support too many projects. Our admin has been sending these long, complicated emails. In fact I just searched my emails for please advise and 99% of them (250 results since July/August-ish last year) were from this guy! I think this is completely context dependent and I think it *can* be really passive aggressive. Even better still. Haha, I see people mentioning that here all the time but I have never received an email that said anything about doing the needful. Get perfection for short pieces of text in just a few minutes. Just hope that boss doesnt respond with yes. And nothing else. This cracks me up, just like TY. +1. You can just say, Maybe its worse, but I use This is a reminder that and then This is your 2nd reminder notice that and finally This is your 3rd reminder that.. She did not understand what I was talking about. Same here. Just decide not to read too much into something. I admit that Im sometimes inclined to send a not-so-gentle reminder by the time Im sending the xth reminder. I have no clue and no inclination to do anything else. . So Ive taken to using Thanks, Dana every.single.time. I often see Please advise abused to avoid doing either of the above! if you would prefer. If I have to remind you more than once youre probably on my nerves more than I am on yours. I was already going to do the needful. For example, Ill try to call one of my peers. The Guardian. Theyve usually established themselves as ineffective and rude, and in those cases, nothing they say will be not-annoying :), Yes! Want to hear the craziest email pet peeve? Get your English checked! If kids notice this stuff, its going to be even more obvious to adults. Ive been working in an administrative role for the past two years and have found your blog very helpful. They are synonymous phrases, so sure, but I like please advise better. Then, if you ask me to please advise as to whether I agree with your proposed next steps, I am indeed happy to advise. Important part: Dont say anything you dont mean or that isnt true. yeah I agree. Also updated EXPENSE sheet WTF is wrong with you? This. Its work. Is that incorrect, Sparrow? Optimizing Autophagy: Could It Be the Secret . That is why I asked the OP if there were more issues at play in this office. "Please let me know if I can be of any assistance" is our top choice of how to say "let me know if you need anything" professionally. We will send you an email to confirm your account. T eilen Sie mir bitte auch mit, wel che Zahlungsweis e fr Sie gnstig ist - entweder. People with professional degrees should be required to take email etiquette classes, too. Im not religious and Im certainly not a Scientologist but the one thing they got right is that they insist that people know what a word means. I can literally count on one hand the number of times I have received a phone call without advanced notice from a colleague. These are some of my other pet peeves: You could just say its a reminder without qualifiers. Why did the author use "prefer"? Yikes, I learned to do this when I worked in a law firm and often end emails this way. LOL. Which option do you prefer? This got me into trouble so many times. portraitsbystanda.com. Maybe Im doing it all wrong, but it works for us. I almost never use it but I did a couple of weeks ago, because Hello? teehee! Ive been tempted). There was another word that was used differently than standard American English was it something like presently instead of soon? I receive emails a lot from Indian English speakers and they often use the phrase Please do the needful or Kindly do the needful which at first I thought seemed rude, but now I see that its just their way of saying that phrase. Some newbie staff members were constantly parking in that spot, which meant one of two things the midnight person had to use one of their breaks to move their car after that staff member left, or if that staff member forgot to move their car, they had to walk 500 metres in the dark to the staff carpark with no cameras at all. We can either 1) switch to white chocolate 2) continue with milk chocolate or 3) form a team to identify new chocolate options. I was really helpful. w.attachEvent("onload", loader); 5. One of my coworkers has it as part of her signature. The former is what you usually say when you make yourself known to somebody. I dont use it all the time but will use it occasionally when she has dropped the ball again and pulled a Charlie Brown* on us. I wouldnt mind that at all. When I used to work on an international team, I found they used Please Advise quite regularly. complimentary close! You need to add a payment method to get our special promo , Enter your email below to get instant access to the first Chapter of our Ebook, We're so happy that you liked your revision! I had an obnoxious passive aggressive manager once who would scold you for some nitpicky infraction and then give you a syrupy Thanks for all you do to send you on your merry way. Thank you !! You might consider using "would be" instead of "is", as well, since the conditional is often more polite than the declarative. Is that better? As part of the ping-pong conversation, maybe you want to say YES. Im an American living in the UK and I cant even count how many times someone has walked me across a room because I keep backing away as they enter my personal space while talking to me. If I have a specific question, and I know the recipient is either really busy or prone to scanning emails, Ill usually state the question and then bold it. I occassionally use please advise if I think the reader may miss various points in my email that is actually a question. I think the point is that theyre giving you a heads up that they want to talk on the phone and doing you the courtesy of letting you wrap up whatever youre doing before calling them. Some appreciate it so they dont have to take 30 minutes to craft a reply to me. The original poster sounds like an arrogant primadonna. Terrible. or Please let us know your thoughts on this.? I guess I could take the time to type out Would you like me to continue doing this in the future? Prefer please let me know your preference please advise which one you prefer 20%OFF ,,,, Sometimes on emails its unclear whether its just an FYI or something I need a response on. Please advise is one of a handful of conventions I use to (hopefully) make my emails easier to read, especially if it is necessary to include a lot of detail in the body: Subject line that indicates what the recipient should do with the email FYI, Action required, Question about chocolate teapot spout training, Advice on incorporating milk chocolate in redesigned teapots, etc. Im still waiting for the Veeblefetzer Report, Please send it to me ASAP.. If you're looking for a complete and built-in experience on your smartphone, you must take a glance at Emerald Chat mobile on your browser of selection. How may I help you? or even Next in line, please., I have fortunately never heard that phrase , but I suspect that somewhere along the way Whos next? got combined with I can take/help the next customer in line (or something similar), Ok, I can see that. How do you feel about putting those words in bold instead? At my old job, someone forgot and send wrong email to an internal listserv with about 1000 people, she realized the mistake in about 5 mins and quickly sent and apology email and a note to disregard. I frequently have to exchange e-mails with attorneys who are fairly high up the food chain. It seems ok to me, and I havent seen it on anyones Grrr list ever. I guess Im being somewhat oversensitive because Ive had several employees in the past who drove me CRAZY with constantly dumping issues in my lap and never trying to bring solutions. I delete it from their email before responding. I used to think it was extremely formal and cold, but now it has no affect on me because it is used so freakin often. I agree that using it the opposite way irritates. I used to manage a group of volunteers for a Nigerian 419 scam warning website. tag.parentNode.insertBefore(s, tag); I think Ive probably written Thanks so much in advance too but more when its part of a longer exchange where the other person has already suggested the thing Im now saying Yes, please do that to, not just cold. They make my head hurt and I can hardly get through reading them! Ill ask for advice, input, and/or guidance, but never with that hated two-word statement. Oooh, yeah. Its so delightfully vague! This is the other circumstance where I use Please advise.. I find it offensive and passive-aggressive. That said, I would never use please advise without more to the sentence. But if my boss asks me to remind another professor, Im going to be inclined to put on kid gloves. You can see something similar pretty often in discussions about works of fiction. Gentle Reminder.Grrrr makes me want to smack the sender. tag.parentNode.insertBefore(s, tag); ", a real person to guide me, instead of some AI :)", The best feature of this service is that the text is edited by a human. I use please advise, but I use it sparingly, usually after I have presented options and just need some help deciding which option would go best for this particular situation. Who cares if someone writes please advise, I honestly doubt they are including it to annoy you. How can we move forward is similar in that respect, I think. Id go for something like, Id appreciate your help in this matter. On can ask questions in an email and never get a reply, so I make sure they realize I expect a reply. Now his bosses, they hated it. Or at the very least tell him what I think needs to be done, and just ask for his sign-off that its ok. If I didnt have please advise to fall back on, Id have to quit my job. Ive used just bumping this to the top of your inbox! before, but only with people who I know are pretty chill and arent going to interpret it as you clearly dont know how to manage your workload so please let me nag you. I feel like I am being summoned. If my calls and emails have been ignored, I will politely include this phrase. "Please let me know if otherwise" is a grammatically correct phrase that you can use in a professional setting. I bet there are people reading here and saying, Omg, they are talking about ME. I hope that they realize that its just trends. Id never say to another person, Please advise., I tend to write like I talk, and I really, really try to avoid any written phrases that dont scan like normal speech. I own a small business called Archetype Origins LLC, I will send you an invoice if you prefer to pay with a credit/debit card (taxes may apply). I was shocked. Closing your account will prevent you from accessing your past revisions, and you will no longer be eligible for a FREE daily revision. Yeah, its annoying to me for that reason, too. The phrase that I always hated was make sense? at the end of an email from a former Director. Please let me know vs Please tell me. Im a little behind. So we just print single-sided for them. Or someone is just trying to convey some type of information to a group of people using intermediaries so they dont have to micromanage every department like the district manager to the dept. "Please let me know when a good time would be - to meet - to talk - to have lunch" Or "Please let me know when would b. This sounds kind of rude and a little angry to me. Itd be a big category. Could this be confirmed either way to help my order progress please? When my employees come to me, I want them to come with solutions or ideas, not just problems. Seems polite, like thanks for reading(? Just this morning I had to send out a second reminder to someone about turning in something that should have been turned in two weeks ago. w.addEventListener("load", loader, false); I dont think Ive ever written please advise or received an email that ended this way, so it surprised me that so many people have such strong opinions on it. All rights reserved. It was perfect for the scenario because if someone shows you a proof and you dont follow it, you often dont have a question so much as you have a wuhhh? I always wondered if it was an expression I wasnt familiar with or what. This exactly. Answer (1 of 21): It's grammatically fine but meaningless. I counted 154 times in one period. Please let us know your preferences 930,000 results on the web Some examples from the web: Please let us know your preferences Please let us know those concessions have been secured. I had a co-worker who would do that! I want to know the context of the meeting so I can prepare for it. ", Quick and smart, plus is "human-based"! Ive searched your blog for some advice on the use of the words please advise and what I found was that a large number of people who pose questions to you use these exact words at the end of their question. If you'd prefer to cancel your membership placed through Shipt by contacting our customer support team, you can call our dedicated line at (205) 259-7798 between 8 am - 8 pm CT. . can I compare attending college to working a full-time job in my cover letter? TechCrunch. In my job, emails are often used as official business communiques. E.g, the change request you sent me is asking for A and B. + Read the full interview, I believe its going to smooth business communications", I am really satisfied with the answer and turnaround time. Ive been using it to mean HALP, but it seems that in other places its more like Do the thing already! OMG yes please do the needful makes me stabby. I wouldnt ever want to imply that Im telling my boss what to do. Yes, agreed. 2. Thanks a lot for editors. (without going into details, many of my co-workers have 4 or 5 or more phone numbers). I moved from big city to mid-Michigan and West Michigan though. So, yeah, for that the please advise would be super annoying. I supervise a manager who falsified an employee write-up but I dont think she should be fired, getting out of shared intern housing, why are so many executives condescending, and more, interviewer fake-rejected me to see if I would fight for the job. She then said What parking procedure? That one really irritates me too. But people tend to not like such things. I also accept Venmo, Cashapp, and Zelle as payment, let me know if you have any questions. As it is, Im asking my recipient how they want me to reconcile the A and B that theyre asking for, not because Im blaming them or am throwing their request back into their court, but because I genuinely want to work together with them to find a feasible solution. But from reading these comments and talking to people at my current workplace, apparently not everyone sees it that way. Sexy way of putting it! Back-office folks are often out of touch with what client relationships mean. Thats a GREAT post, and the comments under it are even better. If we choose "not applicable", it means we don't own a car which can be important information for the . People who arent being that way would just ask what do you think? or how should i handle? . I also accept Venmo, Cashapp, and Zelle as payment, let me know if you have any questions. 8. 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