Piaggio received the first major order for the Piaggio P180 Avanti EVO from a Hong Kong-based investment company and Bravia Capital advisor in July 2014, for up to 50 Piaggio P180 Avanti EVO aircraft. My husband works for Avant and is currently wondering what's happening as well So to Don, you dont happen to live in Vegas do you? Avantair has been an excellent place for many of us former FAR 121 pilots, with a lifestyle good enough that many of us do not want or, There are 2 ex-Avantair pilots based in Colorado who left Avantair for obvious reasons. Length / 47 ft 3 in Why wouldn't they do it maybe 5 aircraft at a time? Cabin dimensions are spacious compared to a Beechcraft King Air and more in line with a midsize jet. They caught a wing and oveturned, but everyone was safe. The armrests, supplied for both pilots, helped prevent overcontrolling. Don. Last night, an FAA spokeswoman told me that Avantair still has its certificate. At FL 250 it was still better than 2,000 fpm at 170 knots indicated. P180 Avanti Oxygen System. Viva VNR! WebTo order vehicle records online, you will need to: Have a permissible use for the information if purchasing records other than your own; Select Online Services; Under Additional At sea level under standard conditions, the Avanti II needs almost exactly the same amount of runway to land as it does to take off, just over 3,200 feet. Height / 13 ft 1 in Avantis are certified to fly as high as Flight Level 410 and maintain a low 6,600-foot cabin altitude at that level. Using the intuitive FMS CDU, I programmed a route toward BERAB, the initial approach fix for the VOR approach to Runway 27 at Villanova. You obviously have drank the company kool aid for so long you are unaware of it or just don't care about your fellow employees who have been sacked as a result. Today's grounding is the 4th time in 2 weeks they have grounded the fleet, but the previous times they had slowly returned airplanes to service. The forward wings are designed to stall first to assist in lowering the nose at the stall, and the ventral fins also add pitch down moment. As it wraps itself around the pointy nose of the P.180, the windshield stretches out for several feet in front of the pilots and wraps back around them tightly. At 10:30 I was contacted and told that my flight had been cancelled, and that they would be looking at both charter and commercial flights at their expense. We called for taxi instructions from Villanovas flight information service, Luciano Luffarelli, Piaggio Aerospaces head of external communication and institutional affairs, invited AIN to fly the Evo, and the test aircraft, Alpha Sierra Golf, was flown in from Genoa by Lorenzo Villi, head of flight operations. With our new processes and procedures, Avantair will satisfy the heightened requirements governing the largest aircraft types in our industry. They have a history of lying. While the rate of climb is great, one thing the Avanti II doesnt do is climb or descend at very high indicated airspeeds, the former a condition of available thrust. Oh, and "coincidentally" perhaps, I got an email request for some documents that they were missing from my file yesterday, which I sent over. 79 dated 17 They offered to find me a charter at MY EXPENSE, which just isn't right. Taking back control as we lined up, Villi held the brakes using the top of the toe pedals, advanced the power levers to 97.6 percent, and we accelerated briskly to 120 knots. Its also remarkably wide for an airplane of its size. Reaching ahead between the forward cabin bulkhead, he lifted the left-side pilots seat to provide a clear floor area on which to stand. AOPA Members DO more LEARN more SAVE more - Get MORE out of being a pilot -. The idea behind the Avanti has always been remarkably simple and completely outside the turboprop box. The main wing of the airplane is very small (172.2 square feet, slightly less than a Cessna 210s) and very highly loaded. Mandarin.. Advertising of any kind is not allowed in our comments section. Space laundry washing throughout the week. Any altimeter setting mismatch is shown by a yellow line beneath the altimeter setting on the PFD, and the pressurized cabin is set to climb at 300 fpm. Rockwell Collins Pro Line 21 avionics suite also debuted in the Avanti II. http://aerossurance.com/safety-management/guilty-plea-obstructing-ntsb/, Passenger - Non-Scheduled/charter/Air Taxi, Updated [Time, Damage, Category, Investigating agency], Updated [Time, Departure airport, Destination airport, Source, Narrative], Updated [Time, Other fatalities, Departure airport, Destination airport, Source, Narrative], Updated [Other fatalities, Source, Embed code, Narrative]. To demonstrate the low-speed aileron control, Lorenzo then pulled back to the buffet and effortlessly rolled on 80 degrees of bank and then recovered to level flight. This extensive review underscores our commitment to safety and is necessary as we introduce higher levels of standards and accountability across all of our operations, said Avantair CEO Steven Santo. The Starships forward canard controls pitch whereas the Avanti has a conventional stabilizer/elevator surface. Avantair loves the use of an ops check where the the crew tries to recreate the issue once and the maintenance department ignores it even after repeat issues with that same problem day after day. Contact me at Atomicapril @ gmail.com. Thanks for point that out. I turned due south and climbed toward the military training area. As the factory-authorized training provider for these aircraft, we have created in-depth, type-specific programs to ensure that pilots and technicians are equipped with the latest in safety training. The sharp sweepback of the horizontal stabilizer ensures the elevators cannot be aerodynamically blanked by the main wing during a stall and thus remain effective throughout, and the main wing, with its high aspect ratio, is positioned behind the rear pressure bulkhead so that the spar does not pass through the passenger cabin, giving an uninterrupted length of 14.93 ft. The one posted under SEC filings on www.avantair.com shows a sentence between the last and next to last sentences that is missing from your release. I love the plane and at first the service was fine. I have only been an owner for a short time but the flights I have taken have been flawless;The pilots seemed happy and very professional. So as fast as it is at cruise, its block times suffer as a result of the climb speed and relatively low Vmo (260 indicated) and Mmo (Mach 0.70) limitations. Piaggios appearance at the Singapore Airshow in February lifted hopes somewhat that the design can survive. The seat is raised or lowered with a lever outboard to provide a view that should just about look down onto the top of the glareshield. The biggest problem I had was in remembering that I wasnt flying a jet and that mounted 30 feet in back of me, completely out of sight, were two turboprop engines. Only records that are readily I can't speak for the maintenance personnel involved in this, but I know that the pilot and co-pilot were both fired for failure to perform a pre-flight check. In the Flint incident, LISTEN TO THE ATC tapes! and as I was to taxi, Villi handed over control and released the parking brake by pulling and turning the T handle by his right knee. They have made a challenging job fun and did their best to service our Owners and fellow employees. Cash is cash, and paying another charter company would sink cash. Passenger oxygen deploys at 13,000 feet. The crew arrived at the intermediate airport and quickly boarded the two waiting passengers.Theydid not perform an adequate preflight inspection and departed about 5 minutes behind schedule. Had this been a 121 flight, the Captain could have had the passengers detained for interfering with a flight crew and stomping out on the supposedly "secured" ramp, but this isn't 121. Taxi steering was selected on the column switch, and the airplane moved easily at our ramp weight of 10,800 pounds. FlightAware General. At that level we were seeing 380 knots or Mach 0.664 on 600 pounds of jet-A per hour, not per side but total. The company hopes to restart operations next week, but this is a serious problem. At 400 feet, Lorenzo handed me control for my first landing. If Avantair doesn't do this, FAA will shut them down. It is not, at least not primarily. The EVO is the latest variant, which hosts a variety of new It is by far the worst disorganized fractional and needs a miracle of improvement. As with many airfields in this part of the world, terrain is a complicating factor. Several years ago I shared a King Air 200 with another company which was great until the partner got into financial trouble and couldn't pay their half. The instrument is a dual-purpose gauge showing both torque and interstage turbine temperature (ITT), Tq shown by a green arrow and ITT by a line. At 73 inches across, the width allows for great shoulder room, easy entry though the airstair door and a very comfy hard-door lavatory. Companies in trouble do this to avoid the panic of "furlough" status. We would be more than happy to speak with any Colorado based owners who might be looking for an experienced Piaggio crew. The Avanti takes that formula and pushes it to the design edge, achieving that performance with a great deal less power than in comparable jet products and with the best cabin in the class by a long shot. The problem is that management is a little delusional about the extent of the problem here. First, the gear came down below 180 knots, then mid- and finally full-stage flaps and we were nicely stabilized at 500 feet. The upper fuselage curves to a peak height just in front of and above the main wing leading edge and then slopes downwards to join the lower fuselage upward curve at a point below the trailing edge of the T-tail that stands with its sharply swept back horizontal tailplane some 13.06 feet above the ramp. We are grateful for their understanding and patience as we work through this important process. All rights reserved. Chad, In rapid-fire Italian, the controller told Villi we could have an approach to Runway 10 if we kept the speed up to fit in with airliner traffic. As we climbed, the Vmo of 260 knots was displayed at the top of the speed tape on the PFD and the climb speed was maintained at 160 knots, reducing by one knot for every 1,000 feet above FL300. Here is the sentence: I would especially reach out to Mr. Norris and others and hope that we will be able to serve you again in the future. Once having completed that check, we asked for and got a climb to FL 380, a common long-range cruising altitude for the P.180, which has a ceiling of 41,000 feet. Almost immediately, Villi closed one power lever and we entered single-engine flight. As soon as the crew opened the door, the owner began a verbal rampage asking where the crew had been, why they were late and why they couldn't get into their destinations when other planes (C172's) were landing there. http://www.avantair.com/filings.html. In reality, the P.180 is a fast, sophisticated, high-flying airplane that requires the same kinds of skills and training as any single-pilot business jet. Because of the rake angle of the windshield, the glareshield is very deep and provides a perspective unique to the Avanti. I followed Lorenzos example, if anything being a bit more aggressive with the speed decay. I still recall going into one of the back hangers and see MX personal taking parts off of other P180s and putting them on other P180s. By this I mean the Evo turns through the same number of degrees as your feet move on the pedals until you put in a sustained input when the full nosewheel deflection of 50 degrees is felt and the turning circle feels extremely nimble and asymmetric braking is not needed. In other words two failures and occured. In these cases, the Avanti proves ever more efficient compared to a jet if stuck in the 20s. My friend, the Captain, requested the FO remain with the passengers, who continued their verbal tirade as the Captain DID complete a postflight, although abbreviated under duress. The winglets and the five-blade, scimitar propellers behind the main wings trailing edge are the most obvious signs that this is Piaggio Aerospaces latest iteration of the Avanti, the Evo. I selected terrain on my PFD to map the coastline. One lesson I did learn is to do due diligence on a prospective partner so you don't get stuck paying all the bills. During the takeoff roll, the left elevator departed the airplane and was found off the side of the runway 3 days later. The shape, youll see, is not simply for show, though ironically it shows very nicely. Be sure to repair any leaky faucets or toilets. Had Chuck Yeager and Sully Sullenburger, himself, flown the aircraft, the result would have been the same. Ive removed Kyles email address above since this is not a pilot placement service, and Ive also deleted a charter companys post trolling for business from Avantair customers. WebThis rare Piaggio P-180 Avanti is an Italien executive transport aircraft with twin turboprop engines mounted in pusher configuration. I am disappointed that there has been no communication out to the owners about this grounding and if you go to their website it doesn't mention anything and it looks like business as usual. These were retracted as we accelerated toward 160 knots. Piaggios P180 Avanti created quite a splash with its 1990 certification in the United States. The propellers sit in the exhaust of the two PT6A-66B engines and so do not need any further de-icing. WebThats why the Piaggio Aero P180 Avanti II is a green aircraft. Now it will be impossible, since I cant even book my last few trips of the year, because I have no idea if we will be flying. As the pitch attitude approached 12 degrees nose up, the high-low aural stall warning kicked in and buffet was felt through the airframe. The closeness to the ground gives the airplane a go-cart feel. Like the Starship, the Piaggio Avanti features a canard and rear-mounted engines. But the Avanti is made mostly of aluminum, not composites. It weighs thousands of pounds less than the Starship and is about 60 m.p.h. faster. ^ Martin, Ed (29 October 1989). Villi led a thorough guided tour of the outside of the airplane and explained all of its many unique features. In flight, the Avanti handles much like its competition, but the jet-like takeoff and landing speeds, lack of FADEC, narrow gear track, twitchy electric steering, and grabby carbon brakes combine to make the airplane more of a handful than your run-of-the-mill King Air or Cessna Conquest. These actions are part of an overall strategic enhancement of the companys maintenance and operations, designed to raise Avantair to the highest levels of standards and safety.. In the end, the Avanti IIs configuration allows it to achieve light jet speeds in the same way as light jets do, by using a very small, highly loaded wing to go with a good dose of power. Grant has been flying the Avanti for years with thousands of hours of experience in the airplane, much of it under typical charterlike conditions. The Nov. 16, 2011 engine failure and emergency landing at Flint, MI and veering off the runway and flipping on its back (all 4 occupants suffered minor injuries) shows pilot poor skills for sure and serious concern about engine maintenance. When Flying first flew the Avanti in 1990, we predicted that its great fuel efficiency would be a big selling point, and that has been true. CLEARWATER, Fla. October 25, 2012 Avantair, Inc. (OTCBB: AAIR), today announced the company is continuing to stand down operations and engaging top aviation experts to help complete a thorough examination of its fleet of nearly 60 Piaggio Avanti aircraft, and a comprehensive review of records and supporting maintenance documentation. Villi led the way, providing an excellent demonstration. WebThe hydraulically retractable tricycle-type landing gear on the Piaggio Avanti II helps the aircraft to operate from smaller airfields as well with a min take off distance of 869 meters Closing the power levers to idle sounds the gear warning horn, which is canceled using a button on the RH power lever. Avantair has retained safety expert Nick Sabatini to oversee the project. The Piaggio Avanti EVO is the third generation model of Piaggios flagship model. There are ten wholly owned Avanti EVOs in operation worldwide, according to JETNET. View our Piaggio P.180 Avanti II photo gallery. If range is the mission, getting the Avanti up to FL410 and cruising about 300 KTAS will yield a near-1,500 nautical mile range while still cruising as fast as the competition. Yes, the Captain was terminated and we lost a good pilot. I have knowledge of quite the contrary. 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I just read about the one that flipped, but understand, it is only this issue that has me looking at ntsb reports, it is not something most fractional owners do before every flight. To remain inside the military area, Villi encouraged me to roll on 45 degrees of bank. The hours they slave him out for is shameful He was up for a 10k raise after gaining seniority and they cut his pay the DAY before he was supposed to get the raise. I started looking at commercial flights, figuring SWA flies there and it would be inexpensive anyway. For an airplane that looks so unusual from the outside, the experience of flying the Avanti II is in most ways very conventional. Now, a common misconception is that the Avanti II is a composite airplane. So to say that all is negative is wildly incorrect. For years, Avantis languished on the fringes of general aviation as a niche airplane. He placed his left foot at the base of the carpet behind the central instrument panel and stepped forward with his right, placing his foot inboard of the control column and gracefully followed with his left. chrisallegro January 15, 2010, 6:21pm #1. No furloughs or termination?? When the crew tried to explain that MYF was below approach minimus due to the CAT B limitation, the owner used abusive language and accused them of lying. I found a new job about 4 weeks later! P180 Avanti Hydraulic. The power levers were manually adjusted as we climbed to maintain 100 percent torque, shown on the engine indicating system on the top of the central multifunction display (MFD) in green. All this is combined with remarkable versatility, which makes the P180 Avanti II one of the most widely used aircraft in public services such as air ambulance and air rescue missions, law enforce-ment, and flight inspections that ensure the safety of people and property. We know this is an extremely difficult period for our loyal employees and frustrating to our devoted owners, said Mr. Santo. The unique rear mounted turboprop engines makes the Avanti instantly recognisable. Criminal Records include Lansing arrests, arrest warrants, search warrants, He's been flying for 10 years and is available for piaggio owners WebThe pilot said he was flying the RNAV GPS runway 36 approach in 3 miles visibility and that the wind was from 070 at 9 knots. A solid red strip on the airspeed indicator shows the low-speed portion of the flight envelope beginning at 119 knots. I know both crews involved in the Flint, MI and the elevator incident. While the forward wing is not fitted with an elevator, it does have a flap, or set of flaps, depending on how you look at it. How do I get out of my lease and is there an opportunity for owners to get together to take action? As far as the crew that experienced the elevator loss, now you will hear the rest of the story.. Due to low ceilings at the destination airport, the crew diverted to the alternate, SAN. Theoretically, a newly minted multiengine pilot with a high-altitude endorsement could hop right in and go flying. The flare required is very small, just enough to cushion the touchdown, so the nose drops very quickly to the runway. Piaggio will also increase the Evo's maximum zero fuel weight (MZFW) to 10,200 pounds, up from 9,800 pounds. This airframe, T7-ASG, SN3007 was the first Avanti to be produced at the new manufacturing facility in Villanova DAlbenga, one year after production was moved from Genoa. The wings are held level easily with aileron and a squeeze of rudder. pilots. You fly final at around 120 knots; when you pull back on the power as you land, the nose rises slightly, the mains touch, and you relax back pressure and prepare to get stopped, a job that is greatly aided by big carbon brakes and extremely effective prop braking. Access to the cabin is straightforward, the upper two-thirds of the door on the port side, just behind the flight deck, opens toward the nose of the aircraft, and a gust lock keeps it flush to the side of the fuselage. There is no elevator in it; hence, its not a canard. WebThe Piaggio P180 Avanti II twin-engine turboprop business aircraft is the successor to the P180 Avanti, of which more than 100 have been produced since its entry into service in At one point, Avantair had 57 P180s in its fleet. A traffic target can be out of view in certain positions, at around 2 oclock for the left-seater or 11 oclock for the right-seater. Then, Cessna built a tougher Citation which you see today - more ready for fractional use. It just so happens to be one of the most unusual looking ones too. This buffet, although it feels like a stick shaker through the column, is all aerodynamic from the forward wing and serves as an excellent stall warning. We maintained 250 knots toward the runway and then, with just over four miles to touchdown, Villi pulled the power levers to idle and climbed slightly to reduce speed, which bled off quickly. Avanti II appeared for the 2006 model year with higher thermodynamically rated engines. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. Of course we do. Of course, with higher operating weights you wont be able to carry as much fuel or, hence, get as much range, though the truth is that most flights in a 400-knot airplane are less than 1,000 nm anyway, and with a thousand-mile range as the target, you can liberally load the P.180. Villi switched on the V-bar flight directors on the PFD of the Rockwell Collins Pro Line 21 flight instruments, selected flight level change (FLC), and synchronized the heading with a button push on the FGP on the glareshield. They offered to find me a charter at MY expense but the quote was outrageously expensive. A most serious maintenance error especially since the elevator installation work would have required a RII type (double) inspection. This produced a rate of descent of just over 4,000 fpm, the maximum, as there are no flight spoilers and the gear limit is 180 knots. Although never anywhere near 40 in the last two weeks have been in service. I got an email at about 10:30 last night saying cancelled for the reasons stated in this email, with the same offer to find me a charter ay my expense. The anhedral of the forward wing ensures there is no aerodynamic interference with the engine intakes and assists in stall handling. Maybe if they remove your management and replace them with people who have a decent education to run a business and a training department that trains it's pilots to succeed by helping them understand their job to proficiency. Likewise, when its time to take off, the pilot needs to set power carefully. 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